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« on: April 27, 2009, 09:42:39 PM »

Is it possible? Outpost is getting a sequel? Wonder if Ray will be too big a star by the time this gets to filming to want to be in it....but maybe?

I liked the first one   :snog:


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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009, 11:23:43 AM »

They've been talking about a sequel at least since they won that BAFTA.  If Ray did the sequel, I think I'd choke!

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 01:33:16 PM »

Of course they're making an Outpost sequel!

As I predicted some months ago, it will be known as Outpost 2 - Revenge of the Doppelgangers.

Ray SteVenson is too busy filming his new movie 'Rome 5 - Pullo's Predicament' - to star as DC again so Lord Charles will be playing the new lead 'Woody'.

*Labia wakes up... twas all a dream?*  :think:
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 02:44:05 PM »

Of course they're making an Outpost sequel!

As I predicted some months ago, it will be known as Outpost 2 - Revenge of the Doppelgangers.

Ray SteVenson is too busy filming his new movie 'Rome 5 - Pullo's Predicament' - to star as DC again so Lord Charles will be playing the new lead 'Woody'.

*Labia wakes up... twas all a dream?*  :think:


Yes it was all a dream, populated by creepy little Howdy Doodies EEEP Now I won't be able to sleep.......
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 06:21:40 AM »

Of course they're making an Outpost sequel!

As I predicted some months ago, it will be known as Outpost 2 - Revenge of the Doppelgangers.

Ray SteVenson is too busy filming his new movie 'Rome 5 - Pullo's Predicament' - to star as DC again so Lord Charles will be playing the new lead 'Woody'.

*Labia wakes up... twas all a dream?*  :think:


Yes it was all a dream, populated by creepy little Howdy Doodies EEEP Now I won't be able to sleep.......

Aww I'm sorry Wing! I forgot you don't like our little wooden friends and find them gottle-a-geerie-eerie!!! *moves eyes from side to side and grins mischeviously* I hope you slept well regardless?!

I'm actually having a lunchbreak here at work. You'll all be rivoted to know I've just eaten my homemade wholewheat fusilli [twirly pasta spirals] with pesto, tomato, sweetcorn and cucumber with some parmesan tossed in [literally - I was in a rush this morning!]. It was delicious but now I stink; my office stinks and the air at home later...  :hmm:

*Wanders off to check teeth but hey, if Ray can have stuff between his teeth, I'm sure I can - smiles broadly*  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 06:23:10 PM »

Of course they're making an Outpost sequel!

As I predicted some months ago, it will be known as Outpost 2 - Revenge of the Doppelgangers.

Ray SteVenson is too busy filming his new movie 'Rome 5 - Pullo's Predicament' - to star as DC again so Lord Charles will be playing the new lead 'Woody'.

*Labia wakes up... twas all a dream?*  :think:


HAHA Labia, I was stumped at your reference to Lord Charles until wing posted about Howdie Doodie. We have Charlie McCarthy here...another Charles, just not as well bred as the Lord I suppose.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 05:38:48 AM »

*Sigh* Another lunch break. Please note my lunchtime excursions here are intended as a diversion-oasis in the middle of my stressful working day... to eat, chill and reflect upon my hectic morning and ... prevent me from fooking murdering colleagues!

Today was yummy carrot and butterbean soup with an unexpectedly bonus half a wholemeal bread roll that a senior member of staff offered to me in the kitchen... hmmm.. wonders what he wants...? I can't let him entice me to part with my expertise with half a bread roll can I? I know I'm cheap but not that cheap..?!

Anyway, I noticed that yesterday I said I had delicious twirly pasta spirals for lunch. Today I'm thinking what other bloody type of spiral is there?! Straight ones? Amphibious landing-craft shaped ones?

*Wanders off in search of a cup of tea but seriously wishing it was an oversized cognac in an undersized bucket*

Oh about Outpost 2... I wonder if any from the original cast will reprise their role? I thought third zombie from the left was an excellent actor  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 02:31:49 PM »

Ehehehehe...  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 04:36:36 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 05:44:25 PM »

Just had a near death experience.. have been laughing too hard to breath
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 09:48:16 PM »

Same here wing.  That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.  Great job Titus. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2009, 07:11:22 AM »

 :lol: :clap: :lol: Good one, Titus!  :cheers:

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2009, 12:17:38 PM »

Same here wing.  That is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.  Great job Titus. 
Thanks very much  ;D  Sometimes the sheer crapness of a photoshop is wot catapults it past absurd to absurdly funny.

To anyone who is reading this and hasn't signed up, there are many gems hidden here that only registered users can see (including the original "Outhouse" poster I made for a contest a while back).  Also, if you don't reply to a thread for a while it can get archived, and we can't see the archives, so if you like something, say so and keep the thread active!

Sign up and participate for pete's sake!  :whip: 
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2012, 07:05:59 PM »

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59591

AICN HORROR: Ambush Bug talks about Nazi zombies, Ray Stevenson, and military horror with the director of OUTPOST and OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN Steve Barker, plus reviews of both films!!!
Published at:  Nov 13, 2012 9:56:53 AM CST


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What the &#$% is ZOMBIES & SHARKS?
Greetings, all. Ambush Bug here with another AICN HORROR: ZOMBIES & SHARKS column. This week we have a special interview with director Steve Barker who not only directed the cult classic OUTPOST with Ray Stevenson, but also directed the sequel to the film OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN which was released on DVD and BluRay last week. Hereís what Steve had to sayÖ

AMBUSH BUG (BUG): Hi Steve, how are you doing today?

STEVE BARKER (SB): Great, great!

BUG: Well, I had a chance to see not only OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN, but also OUTPOST just last night. Iíve been meaning to see the original, but hadnít been able to, so I was glad I got a chance to see both of your films before talking with you. Are these your first films?

SB: Yeah, the first OUTPOST was my first movie. Before that, I was writing, and doing some shorts. Iíve been doing the fairly traditional route where I started out making shorts and doing pop promos and then I would do some writing for some feature scripts. OUTPOST was my first directing job. I didnít write it. I just directed it.

BUG: Letís start out with the first OUTPOST and then weíll move on to the sequel. How did you luck out getting Ray Stevenson to star in your first film?

SB: At the time we did it, Ray was doing ROME and while we were putting the script together for the first one, I was watching that series and it was just one of those things where I just kind of looked at him and I knew him a little bit from television actually over here and heíd done a couple of supporting roles in some Hollywood movies, but ROME was really the first time anyone ever really noticed him. But we wanted him for it and we sent him the script and it happened to arrive just as ROME was finishing, but before anyone was really looking at him yet, so it just happened at the right time. We sent him the script and he read it and said he was interested. Then we met him and we actually got horribly drunk with him. (laughs) And he said yes, pretty much straight away. And it was only a couple of months later just as we were about to start shooting that Hollywood started showing an interest in him based on ROME. So it was a case of good timing.

BUG: Just curious, what does Ray Stevenson like to drink?

SB: Whiskey. Heís a big whiskey man.

BUG: Nice.

[Both laugh.]

SB: I donít know if youíve ever actually been in the presence of the manÖ

BUG: No, I havenít.

SB: He is literally like a tank with arms and feet. He is the biggest human being. Heís such an enormous, yet such a gentle guy. But he can drink infinitely more whiskey than I can. That was a long night.

BUG: Thatís great. Both films do the impossible by incorporating two different genres together pretty well; military action and horror. Itís done a lot, but I donít think itís done well often. But it works here. How did you make it all work together?

SB: Itís a great question. It was one we thought about as we were putting the whole thing together. We didnít have to think about it quite so much in the second one, since obviously it was being told through the eyes of someone outside of the military. We had an innocent in the lead there in the form of Catherine. But certainly in the first one, I think that the conversations we had most was, how do you create a story centered around a bunch of military guys and still make them scared of what they were battling. And we went round and round for quite a while on it until we realized that as long as we couldÖmost people in combat are going to be frightened and if we could build off of that and also make them quite jaded then we could create some effective scenarios.

In terms of the actual technical side of it, a lot of it, as Iím sure you can tell, there are a lot of influences from an era that I admire. At the time we made the film, torture porn was becoming very prevalent. And we really wanted to go back and make a film that was more like the stuff we grew up with like ALIEN, JAWS, early John Carpenter. And there are obviously huge homages to ALIENS and early John Carpenter films like THE FOG in this one. So I figured as long as I could put the characters in a situation where they would be scared, and that the tense and frightening beats worked on themselves, I kind of trusted it would work.

BUG: Yeah, well the first one feels kind of like THE EXPENDABLES vs Nazi Zombies.

SB: Yeah! (laughs) Definitely, I feel that that tone of the characters being jaded and wizened. Obviously, there were no EXPENDABLES when we made the film. But we were talking about the film in terms of THE WILD BUNCH; the idea of these broken down guys really appealed to me and most of the credit goes to the writer, Rae Brunton. And to Ray and to Richard Brake, who is an American actor who lives in the UK who has done a whole bunch of films like BATMAN BEGINS and things like that. These actors made that jaded feel work fabulously well.

BUG: Letís move on to OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN because thatís what weíre here to talk about today. One of the things that I really liked about the zombiesÖor I donít even know if they are zombies. Theyíre definitely not your typical zombies. They are born of Nazi science. Iíve seen quite a few Nazi zombie movies out there. Did you take any cues from those films in making these two? Or the Nazi dabblings into the occult? Does a lot of research go into this type of movie?

SB: We did a bit of research. I do want to say that when we went into the first one, the resurgence of the Nazi zombie film hadnít actually happened yet. All we had to reference were films like SHOCKWAVE from the 70ís. And then we got lucky, which is why the film did particularly well in European countries, was that as we made that, there were no other films with Nazi zombies in it at the time. It wasnít my idea. It was the producerís idea and he brought up Nazi zombies and I said, ďBrilliant, I havenít seen that in years!Ē At the same time after we made the film, the CALL OF DUTY games had the free add on which I believe was actually called NAZI ZOMBIES. And then about a year after OUTPOST, these guys in Scandinavia made a film called DEAD SNOW which is a fantastic movie. So in the end, I wasnít really worries about the similarities when I made the first one.

To answer the second part of your question, we did look into the Nazisí interest in the occult. And in the end, we used some of it that worked well with the plot and didnít use what didnít. But with the second film, I donít think I was quite aware that this little sub-genre had actually happened until I came to make a second film and I realized that there are quite a lot of these films knocking around. And I was a little concerned. One of the things about making a sequel is that I didnít want to make a retread of the first one. One of the things that made the first film was that it was quite fresh at the time. Iíve got to admit, I havenít seen a lot of these other movies mainly becauseÖI think itís always tough as a writer to not be inadvertently influenced by any of those other films. Itís one of those cases where you have kind of a the same idea and that can be trouble in such a limited genre. And then you end up accused of ripping it off. I think now that Iíve finished this film, I might sit down and watch them all now. (laughs)

I really have no idea if they are close, different, or whatever. Do you have any Nazi zombie films you would recommend?

BUG: Well, Iíd definitely recommend SHOCKWAVES. I loved DEAD SNOW, like you did. Thereís one called BLOOD CREEK that Iíve been meaning to check out, but havenít yet. But I donít think there is a lot of overlap with those. I like the way you incorporated the Philadelphia Experiment into the mythology of the film. Can you go into a little more detail about how you made that work in the story?

SB: That was really quite lucky. Originally, we just had a machine and it did stuff. But we were going to leave it vague. But it was actually the production designer who said, ďIf I have to build it, I have to know what it does.Ē He is the one who suggested Einsteinís Unified Field Theory and from there it was genuinely just a lucky accident. We started looking into Unified Field Theory. Not only did it have connections with that era, but it had everything to do with the Philadelphia Experiment and it was too good to pass up not to incorporate it into the film. In the hands of others, it could have been really hokey and seemed crammed in there, but the writer did a fantastic job of incorporating it in.

BUG: Did you make up the Nazi connection with that then?

SB: We just made it up. Or maybe they were experimenting around with it. Who knows? We were like, ďwe know about this experiment and itís documented to be occurring during that era, so why not just say, What if?Ē Rae Brunton, the writer of both films did a lot more research on it that I did.

BUG: With OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN you came at this from a different angle, with an innocent eye. Sheís not that innocent because sheís brought up by Nazi hunters and begins killing these old Nazis herself, but sheís not military. Where did the concept come from to approach the story from this angle?

SB: Honestly, the conversation started when we realized that we wanted to make a sequel, but weíd actually killed everyone in the first film. So we decided if we wanted to do it, we wanted to do something completely different. I wanted from the start to have a female lead because there were absolutely no females in the first film and that would force us to be different. We had to try to find a fresh way in. And we wanted to tie it in with the first one, and in that film thereís a 16mm film with a guy in a lab coat in the background. So we took that footage and gave that character a back story and said that was the guy who invented the machine. So we realized that that was our way in. As we were talking about it in the sequels initial stages, we kind of said we wanted a kind of fucked up action horror movie version of THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL. And the moment we got all of those parts together it all started to make sense. So we brought in an innocent to come in and go after the guys who want to find the machine and that would be a fresh way to go in instead of start out with the action as we did in the original.

BUG: Well, whatís coming up next? Will there be a third OUTPOST film?

SB: Well they are actually making the third film. We had the sets still up from out production and as we were shooting, they were writing. And not that weíre done, theyíre just finishing up that film. I think itís cool that they said, ďWell, weíve got these sets built already, we might as well use them.Ē So they worked on the script while I was in post. Iím due to see a rough cut of it soon, but I havenít seen it yet.

BUG: Are you acting as a producer on it or anything?

SB: No, I literally havenít read the script because I want to be able to watch the film as a fan. I didnít think it was fair to take one of those phony exec credits on it since I didnít have anything to do with it. I was kind of zombied out after making these two films. I needed a little break and I didnít have the time to make the third while I was finishing the second anyway.

BUG: So whatís next for you?

SB: Well, I have a script that I wrote that I am directing which is kind of a revenge story based on the Lee Marvin mold, but it also happens to have vampires in it. And the script that I am literally starting now that I canít talk about is something I just got back from Berlin now as I was doing research on this serial killer movie which Iím really excited about. I have to finish the script to that by Christmas and Iím looking to shoot either that or the other revenge film by summer next year.

BUG: Well, thanks so much. OUTPOST and OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN are a great pair of films and I definitely want to recommend them to my readers.

SB: You know, I havenít watched them back to back yet. By the time youíve finished doing them, you kind of donít want to see them ever again, but I do want to sit down with popcorn and pizza and do a little double bill of our own with them soon.

BUG: Awesome. Well thanks for talking with me today. Congratulations on both films and good luck on your next ones!

SB: Brilliant! Thank you!

BUG: OUTPOST has been out on DVD for quite a while now. OUTPOST 2: BLACK SUN is available now on DVD and BluRay!

Retro-review: Available on DVD!
OUTPOST (2008)

Directed by Steve Barker
Written by Rae Brunton
Starring Ray Stevenson, Julian Wadham, Richard Brake, Michael Smiley, Enoch Frost, Paul Blair, Julian Rivett, Brett Fancy, Johnny Meres
Retro-reviewed by Ambush Bug

Mixing genres can be a recipe for disaster. Mastering one genre can be hard, but two is neigh impossible. Especially a genre like military action and horror. In many ways they are polar opposites with one being explosive and often in your face and the other more subtle creeping under ones skin in order to be effective. Steve Barker manages to juggle both genres, giving the story of a team of mercenaries paid to take a scientist into a specific location in the middle of a forest and provide protection for him. Whatís in the forest? What are they protecting the scientist from? Whatís at stake? They donít know and the mercs donít care, as long as the money is paid. Barker makes the story go boom when necessary, then allows it to slither under and around your comfort zone at the right times as well.

ROMEís Ray Stevenson is D.C., the leader of this ragtag group of commandos from all over the globe; some from South Africa, America, and all over Europe. As they are bought in a bar in a European town, they are jaded war vets who have seen and shot it all. And thatís what makes this film so special. As with ALIENS, PREDATOR, and even THE KEEP, this isnít a bunch of horny kids running and screaming from monsters. This is a group of trained professionals who are not supposed to wet their fatigues at the sign of danger. Somethingís got to be pretty bad to spook them.

And that something is zombiesÖNazi zombies. I know zombies have become clichť, but Baker and his writer Rae Brunton being us zombies of a different sort. Filled with warped science spawned from Nazi occult experiments, OUTPOSTís monsters are not Romero shamblers or Boyle ragers. They are trained SS soldiers that just happen to be reanimated. The fact that these zombies seen to be able to think and fight and shoot machine guns make them a wholly new force to be reckoned with altogether. When this apathetic team of battlers face a menace they canít blow to hell with guns and grenades, itís interesting to see them either man up or come apart at the seams. The initial scenes of this film as the band have no idea what it is they are up against are downright bone-chilling.

The science behind this film is a lot of fun too. Incorporating all forms of physics theory including the Philidelphia Experiment, thereís enough science mumbo jumbo to make you understand without going into too much detail. Sure this math doesnít add up in the real world, but enough is there to satisfy that appetite for the suspension of disbelief to kick in and let you go along for the ride. Oozing with machismo and grit you often find in these military films and never forgetting to toss in a scare here and there, the moody atmosphere, the talented cast, and the badass zombies makes OUTPOST stand out from the rest of the living dead films on the shelves.





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